A 5-minute watch.

Octo member Richard Philbin, CIO at Wellian Investment Solutions, came into the studio to chat with bond investor Janus Henderson’s John Pattullo about what means to be a genuine strategic bond investor.

Ahead of the full podcast interview later today, John and Richard sat in the booth for a quickfire round of questions to give a flavour of John and his co-manager Jenna Barnard and their team, their investment style and how it’s morphed through time, investors and economists they admire, and what John does in his spare time.